{"id":74,"date":"2007-08-30T20:35:00","date_gmt":"2007-08-31T00:35:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/alanrhoda.net\/wordpress\/?p=74"},"modified":"2007-08-30T20:35:00","modified_gmt":"2007-08-31T00:35:00","slug":"irreducible-complexity-what-if","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/alanrhoda.net\/wordpress\/2007\/08\/irreducible-complexity-what-if\/","title":{"rendered":"Irreducible Complexity &#8211; What if?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s an interesting post at Uncommon Descent that raises a very good question for the biological debate over intelligent design.<\/p>\n<p>For those who don&#8217;t know, biological intelligent design (BID) is the view that the combination of random mutations + natural selection + deep time is <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">not<\/span> sufficient to account for the existence of life on Earth in all its diversity and that a fully adequate explanation will need to be fundamentally teleological &#8211; in short, we&#8217;re going to have to posit one or more designers.<\/p>\n<p>The main argument for BID turns on the notion of &#8216;irreducible complexity&#8217;. The basic idea is that there are complex structures and processes at the biomolecular level that cannot <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">plausibly<\/span> be explained by Darwinian processes (RM + NS) and that can plausibly be explained by appealing to intelligent design.<\/p>\n<p>The standard reply among mainstream biologists (e.g., Kenneth Miller) is to replace the italicized word &#8216;plausibly&#8217; above with &#8216;possibly&#8217; and then to present an imaginative just-so story about how that apparently irreducibly complex could have <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">possibly<\/span> evolved.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s a rather evasive response, of course, but it works pretty well since most people don&#8217;t notice the shell-game (swapping &#8216;possibly&#8217; for &#8216;plausibly&#8217;).<\/p>\n<p>In this context, Granville Sewell proposes that we ask evolutionary biologists this question, &#8220;What IF we were able to determine, to your satisfaction, that some biological structure really is irreducibly complex and not just apparently so?&#8221; Such a question could evoke any of the following responses:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The supposition of the question is false. It is simply impossible to determine to my satisfaction that any biological structure is irreducible complex.<\/li>\n<li>I would stick with Darwinism regardless.<\/li>\n<li>I would give up on Darwinism and embrace something closer to BID.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The first and second responses are<\/p>\n<p> BID is not science (because it can&#8217;t be adequately tested) <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">and<\/span> it has been adequately tested and falsified. Let&#8217;s ignore the implicit contradiction in those two claims, however. A more important point is that<\/p>\n<p>Now<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s an interesting post at Uncommon Descent that raises a very good question for the biological debate over intelligent design. For those who don&#8217;t know, biological intelligent design (BID) is the view that the combination of random mutations + natural selection + deep time is not sufficient to account for the existence of life on\u2026 <span class=\"read-more\"><a href=\"http:\/\/alanrhoda.net\/wordpress\/2007\/08\/irreducible-complexity-what-if\/\">Read More &raquo;<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-74","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/alanrhoda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/74","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/alanrhoda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/alanrhoda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/alanrhoda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/alanrhoda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=74"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/alanrhoda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/74\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/alanrhoda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=74"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/alanrhoda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=74"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/alanrhoda.net\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=74"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}